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Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:17 am

Been working on a new column off and on for a while now, thought I would post a few pics. 4 1/2 od tube with four plates
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby wv_cooker » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:59 am

Beautiful work as usual. I'm jealous of that lathe. :bow-blue:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:23 am

Thanks wv, I'm pretty darn lucky to have this stuff. Wife asked me once, "what do you need a shop for?" She figured it out... :handgestures-thumbupright:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby fifan74 » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:25 pm

beautiful work.... i am always a fan of stainless, and can always appreaciate top notch craftsmanship like yours. some day if i ever think im qualified enough to run a flute thats what i would want or maybe a 3 plate. I look forward to hearing how she runs.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:36 am

Thanks fifan, The first column that I built had five plates and the plates had 1/8 holes. This one has four plates and I changed the hole size to 5/64, so will be interesting to see how they run differently.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby cacticlayton » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:24 am

Great work SS, glad to see a new build from you. Anybody can build with copper, Stainless takes much more skill and that is why your work is my favorite. I love the stainless plate tree and sight glasses. Did you make the sight glasses from scratch or are they made from some sort of split flange?
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby acfixer69 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:55 am

cacticlayton wrote:Great work SS, glad to see a new build from you. Anybody can build with copper, Stainless takes much more skill and that is why your work is my favorite. I love the stainless plate tree and sight glasses. Did you make the sight glasses from scratch or are they made from some sort of split flange?


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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby olddog » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:39 pm

I have seen just as many dogs breakfast in stainless and copper, but skill is required for both metals to produce a professional looking job.

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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:55 pm

cacticlayton wrote:Great work SS, glad to see a new build from you. Anybody can build with copper, Stainless takes much more skill and that is why your work is my favorite. I love the stainless plate tree and sight glasses. Did you make the sight glasses from scratch or are they made from some sort of split flange?

Thanks C, I think you give me too much credit. The sight glasses were machined from stock and heavy wall tube.
I have been impressed with your builds C, but I don't think copper is easier to work than stainless. I use stainless because I work with it every day and have lots of it laying around the shop. :handgestures-thumbupright:

thanks again for your kind words :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby fifan74 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:44 pm

I dont think pure copper is easy to machine at all, in fact its not much fun. its quite gummy and makes a mess of your tools. What kind of product do you plan to run with the 4 plates. I am under the assumption that 3-4 plates will make a good whiskey or bourbon which is what i am interested in. Once again great work, i look forward to knowing how she runs.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:34 am

I run mostly whiskey and rum fifan, so I thought I would try four plates, but I've read that three does a good job. These plates also have different hole size than my first column. First column had 1/8 holes and I drilled this one with 5/64 holes, so it will be interesting to see if it runs differently... :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby cacticlayton » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:51 pm

Sorry guys didn't mean to offend anyone, what I should of said is that stainless is much harder for me to work with as I have tried and failed before. Copper IMO is more forgiving, again my apologize I was just impressed with Stainless dudes work. :confusion-shrug:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby emptyglass » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:19 am

acfixer69 wrote:
cacticlayton wrote:Great work SS, glad to see a new build from you. Anybody can build with copper, Stainless takes much more skill and that is why your work is my favorite. I love the stainless plate tree and sight glasses. Did you make the sight glasses from scratch or are they made from some sort of split flange?


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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby cacticlayton » Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:23 am

Thats not what I said and that's definitely not what I meant. I came to the Modern Distiller forum to get away from these type of comments. I have already apologized for putting my foot in my mouth and explained what I meant to say.
Sorry for getting off topic stainless dude, im done.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby nwshiner » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:39 pm

just great work stainless.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:26 am

Thanks NW, hopefully I can get some more done this weekend and show some more progress. Need to get some washes done so I can have something to run.. :grin:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:52 am

A little bit of progress this morning...Got the return bend welded and polished, and attatched to the output condenser..
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby hellbilly007 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:49 pm

That's looking bad ass SD. That reducer adds a nice touch of class to it.
I tend to over think methods forgetting the most simple, effective ways of doing things. I think I look for excuses to buy new tools, lol.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:09 am

Thanks hellbilly, got some more done this morning...
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:23 am

About done, got the cooling lines run, so going to add a relief valve and a couple of little things in the morning, then do my cleaning runs tomorrow afternoon.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby fifan74 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:35 am

Wow really really nice looking rig,Absloutely first class craftsmanship! hope she runs just like you want.I look forward to hearing the results.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:44 am

Thanks fifan, I'm really pumped to give it a go. :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:21 am

Got the colum all hooked up to the boiler, tested cooling lines, getting ready for cleaning runs
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby wv_cooker » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:46 am

Send that to me and I'll get rid of it for you. It's got a dang finger print on top of it. :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: The brass just set's it off doesn't it? The only word that comes to mind is mesmerizing! Beautiful work as usual. :bow-blue: :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:55 am

Thanks WV, got it all cleaned up yesterday. Now I need to get some uj fermenting and give it a real run.. If I can't get that finger print off I'll pm you for pick up. :grin:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby cacticlayton » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:15 pm

Great work SD it really came out nice.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:13 pm

Thanks C :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:16 am

Making the first run today, charged the boiler with about 20 gallons of uj last night and fired it up this morning. This column takes more power to run than my other column. I suspect because of more hole surface area on the plates. 9% vs 7%. Started off at about 93%, am in the middle of the hearts at 92%. I thought the abv would be lower with four plates but the flavor does seem to be better than my five plater. Am running just over two litrers an hour, am sure I could run faster but want to get used to it first. My other column will smear pretty bad if I run faster than that.
I used a different downcomber style on this column where I welded a cap on the bottom of the downcomber and left it about 1/2 inch above the plate. My other column I welded the cap to the plate and the downcomber dropped into it.
Any thoughts on the two different styles. I have seen it done both ways, I don't know at this point if one is better than the other.. :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby the Doctor » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:00 am

Sweet work man....just sweet.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Bushman » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:32 am

Beautiful, have you thought about upscaling and making commercial stills?
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby fifan74 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:35 am

That is truly a work of art, really happy for you that its up and running better than your other one.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:59 pm

the Doctor wrote:Sweet work man....just sweet.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:03 pm

Bushman wrote:Beautiful, have you thought about upscaling and making commercial stills?

Thanks bushman, I had a commercial guy ask me about a boiler. But nothing has come of it, that's ok though probly more fun to leave this as a hobby and not work. :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:11 pm

fifan74 wrote:That is truly a work of art, really happy for you that its up and running better than your other one.

Thanks fifan, I've seen your stuff and it's very nice also. It'll take a few runs to get used to this one but seems good so far, thanks fifan... :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby JayD » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:04 pm

very nice work indeed... :handgestures-thumbupright:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Danespirit » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:26 am

Piece of art.. :handgestures-thumbupright:
That is what i call real craftmanship,completed to the last detail.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Zombie » Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:10 pm

Hi StainlessDude,
I know it's an old thread.... Awe Inspiring! I just got lost for words after seeing this.
I have a question about your plate designs. I am currently working with a template of 1/8th Perf. plate before I purchase the stock. I read your numbers (hole diameter/percentage) and am curious about what your running results were/are now.
I have a designed vapor speed of 21.82 ips @ 7.5kw / 29.9 ips @ 10kw.
Your signature lead me to this, and of course I am curious as to what your findings were and are.Using your 7, and 10% base lines I can work the math to predict how mine will perform but I believe real world performance may be different I would really appreciate any insights you may have.
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:53 am

The 1/16 holes worked well but since then I have gone to 3/32 holes at about 8%. Good luck..
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Zombie » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:51 am

Thank you StainlessDude,
How thick are your plates, how much power are they running efficiently at, and at what bath depth. I only ask so I can do the math, and use the numbers to confirm that I understand this, and am on the right track. I can get the vapor speed from your column size.
I think you understand I am not a "copy cat". just very excited about the learning curve.
I respect your talent, and appreciate your time. :clap:
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Stainless dude » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:37 am

Plate thickness is .125, down comber height is .875. I can't tell you how much power I use, running natural gas..
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Re: Stainless Steel flute build

Postby Zombie » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:16 pm

Thank you for sharing your Specs. Stainless Dude. If I understand enough to calculate solid numbers from yours, I should be able to compare that to the numbers I get from mine.
From what I understand so far both results should fall within a given percentage range. I appreciate the help.

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