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Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby WVSHINER » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:56 pm

Guys, my plated column built by a MD board member just arrived and the first question that came to mind is should I run it in pot mode to remove the foreshots and heads or bring it up to full reflux for 20 minutes or so and then make my run ?


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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby the Doctor » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:41 pm

Not sure what you are asking here... is this a spirit or stripping run ... I think we just need a bit more information to answer this with any accuracy. Just expand a bit for us please.
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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby WVSHINER » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:20 pm

the Doctor wrote: is this a spirit or stripping run Doc


Spirit run, Doc. Looking for high ABV for flavor neutrals. Diluted of course.

Could remove fores and head in the pot mode to stip but at this point would like to keep it all together as the column is modular and can be run as a pot, 2 plate, 4 plate or 6.

I = could also run it as a 2 plate at first to get my feet wet and then move up to the 4/6 configuration at a later point .

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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby the Doctor » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:11 pm

OK thanks WVS I was not sure how to advise you... I do not worry about fores, heads or tails when I strip...that is all left for the spirit run... I run the spirit plated still in total knock down with the deph running full blast for 20 minutes to stack the fores and as much of the heads as possible into the upper plates so when I open up for running by closing down the deph flow I get the heads off with the least amount of smear. Run with as many plates as you can be it 4 or six...if you are after neutral you want the maximum amount of reflux you can whilst still taking a small amount of spirit .... my mantra is strip quick spirit slow.
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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby WVSHINER » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:58 pm

Doc, I think I know now what is meant by compressing the fores & heads. BTW, I will be running either a Birdwatcher or Zymurgy Bobs' MUM wash. As for shutting down the dephlag should it be gradually shut down to remove the nasties or shut off quickly and then opened again to regulate the spirit flow?

Any further tips will be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby the Doctor » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:17 pm

when I close down the dephlag I set it to minimal flow as I want the run rate to be for the whole run...If I have got it right Ther fores and heads are soon through and the hearts are soon achieved..., I do wish you were closer so we could talk as i find it sometimes easier to verbally explain these concepts ...perhaps we can skype sometime. Keep asking questions i will try as well as i can to find the words...take care.
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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby JayD » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:05 pm

these stills seem daunting in the beginning however after a couple of runs you wont believe how simple and efficiently they run, I run mine very similier to Docs method. I compress the fores n heads for around fifteen to twenty minutes then remove my fores n heads, sometimes I compress (relux) for another five minutes after removal of fores n heads then start to take off the begining of my run. Hope this helps you a little.
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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby WVSHINER » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:12 am

Thanks guys, I think I'm getting the idea.

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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby the Doctor » Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:35 am

Just ask away if there is anything we can do...but once you have done it a couple of times, the whole thing will fall in place.
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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby WVSHINER » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:37 am

MD is the friendly site to learn about our hobby. Thanks Doc.

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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby the Doctor » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:13 pm

Always a pleasure WVS
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Re: Fores and heads removal in plated column ?

Postby Shiney 92 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:45 am

Doc i run mine this way :
Once in full reflux run at least 30-40 min
the with the deflag in full mode (valve wide open)
i open the by pass on the main condenser to about 3/4 0pen
and start collecting the first 10oz is 4shots and heads
the rest is good.
this is done with aprox water flow @ 1gal in 1 min 30 to 1min 15 respectively through the still,
depending o the size of defrag and the main condenser.
once i start collecting at the % i want i adjust the heat to get a qt every 30-40 min.
13 gal boiler 3" 4 plate column
hope this helps
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