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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:11 am
by kimbodious
Thanks S-Cack, yes intuitively, the CCVM set up is sensitive to setting changes but rock solid after that - it helps promote a degree of cofidence when operating. Yes for me the sight glass is very important - others say they can tell by listening what is happening inside the column but I don't have that level of experience yet.

I had a thermometer installed but didn't refer to it much. The thermometer has an auto power off so whenever I wanted to look at it, it seemed to be always powered down. When I turned it on the temperature was always rock solid. I did check the thermometer when I was wondering if I'd reached tails.Next time I will not use the tee with the thermoport and just run by the sight glass and the output

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:59 am
by kimbodious
Had my second CCVM run on the 23rd & 24th using low wines from the kale recipe. Fairly different to the first run operation-wise. I had to have the RC in both lower and higher positions than the previous run. Settings on the power controller were no different to the previous run. The remperature on the thermometer and the rate of product output fluctuated quite a bit though in small margins. Product yield and quality is excellent however - it was just a different run! I put it down to it being a very hot day where there was likely to be fluctuation in the domestic water supply. I have the water tap barely cracked open which I believe makes effects of domestic water supply fluctuations even greater. I was pleased to catch and stop the run just before tails could taint the product to any degree. I am happy to recommend Googe's Kale recipe for neutral spirit :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:14 pm
by FullySilenced
Post it in the Kale thread

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:30 am
by kimbodious
I believe my CSST RC on my CCVM can knock down more vapour than I am currently sending it. I have had to throttle the rate of vapour flow to avoid flooding the column.

Yesterday I unpacked the SS scrubbers from the 2 x 300mm spool sections. There were 16 of the small Choreboy scrubbers in one section and 17 in the other section. The scrubbers looked good with no sign of rust and no residual odour. I was able to repack the columns using the same scrubbers. I use a mattock handle to pack each scrubber in place. This time I did not pack the scrubbers as tightly. I reduced the number of scrubbers per section to 11. We'll see how that goes as far as reducing the risk of flooding.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:52 pm
by kimbodious
More botanical baskets this time using #30 stainless steel mesh (30 apertures per linear inch)
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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:13 pm
by kimbodious
Testing out a couple of recent mods on a CCVM spirit run (30 litres of kale recipe low wines at 30%ABV).

First mod was an attempt to reduce the risk of flooding by reducing the amount of packing by 33% (22 instead of 33 SS scrubbers). Result; I can run at higher power, slightly greater output but still at azetrope.

Second mod was a hardwire bypass of the power controller i.e. run power directly to the element without the power controller in the circuit. Result; a much shorter period between power in and reflux. When required I can simply connect in the power controller. From the success of this mod, I have just ordered a cam bypass switch (on-off-on) to wire in so that I don't have to physically plug and unplug the controller in the heating circuit.

It is breezey here on the verandah where I am running my still. Even though the boiler and the column is insulated at least up to the sightglasses the breezes are knocking the vapour column about a bit

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:53 pm
by S-Cackalacky
Sounds like the mods have given some significant improvements. By how much have your run times improved?

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:43 am
by kimbodious
Heatup I saved 20 minutes. Outputwise I was getting an extra 20% in the same period. I'd say conservatively I saved an hour and a half on a regular run. This neutral will be diluted and used for the first run with my offset gin head.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:13 pm
by S-Cackalacky
The time seems a little more tolerable than what you were getting before. I'm anxious to hear how the gin head works out. Not that I'll be making one any time soon. For now, I'll live vicariously through your experiences.

Seems that your next big project should be a wind screen. Or, maybe enclose the veranda.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:37 pm
by kimbodious
6.5 litres of hearts at 94% ABV made the final cut; all in readiness for the first run with the offset infusion chamber!

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:59 pm
by S-Cackalacky
That seems like a goodly amount. For me, that would translate to more than a year's supply of gin after tempering down to 45%, or so. Great results Kimbo.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:27 pm
by kimbodious
Beaut mod to the power controller. I put in a SPDT switch. This has three positions - 0 bypasses the SSVR, 1 (centre) no power, 2 routes the power via the SSVR. Testing it out just heating some water - happy me :handgestures-thumbupright: The SSVR gets warm when it is opened right up. I figured why not bypass it altogether if I am just wanting a quick heatup.

I downloaded an App iCircuit that allowed me to set out and visualise the circuit, also a good thing :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 5:13 pm
by Lowie
You really should have a heat sink on that SSVR. I learnt that the hard way...

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:55 pm
by kimbodious
The SSVR already has a heatsink, a big one, easily twice times the width of the SSVR and nearly three times the height. The only time the SSVR gets warm is when it is set for maximum power.
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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:10 pm
by kimbodious
Next bit of bling to be added to my power controller... gotta love ebay and cheapie chinese electronics!
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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 10:09 am
by Lowie
You got a link for that one mate?

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:40 pm
by Lowie
kimbodious wrote:The SSVR already has a heatsink, a big one, easily twice times the width of the SSVR and nearly three times the height. The only time the SSVR gets warm is when it is set for maximum power.
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Good one. :handgestures-thumbupright: I'm currently putting a box together to control my HLT (beer brewing) and I've ordered a PC fan to help keep the SSVR cooled. My previous experiment resulted in a melted box! I bought a pre-made box out of Aliexpress to control my still boiler, haven't tried it yet.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:48 pm
by kimbodious
Here's that link Lowie, plenty to choose from on ebay, I chose this one because they offered to get it her by next week... https://tinyurl.com/lgw3bqz

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:49 pm
by kimbodious
I'll post up a pic once the controller is all modded up. :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:32 am
by Lowie
kimbodious wrote:I'll post up a pic once the controller is all modded up. :handgestures-thumbupright:


Cheers fella :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:00 pm
by kimbodious
here is the blinged up power controller, in this photo it is set to (1) bypass the SSVR
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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:12 pm
by kimbodious
give us a hoi Lowie when you get yours so I can give you the go on the wiring if you need that sort of help? beats me how I didn't blow the meter up first and second go round!

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:35 pm
by S-Cackalacky
Great looking meter Kimbo! Do you have any pics or details on how you wired it? I think I have that same one in my ebay watch list, but not sure there will be room for it in my controller box.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 12:00 am
by kimbodious
I can help you via PM for wiring up the meter when you show me a pic of the meter. I do not want to be responsible for providing general advice re electrical connections - I have no real skills or knowledge in that field but I am very cautious when it comes to electrickery - I learned that the hard way through getting two boots in the one afternoon - it hurts, a lot

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 12:30 am
by S-Cackalacky
Fair enough. I need to make sure it will fit inside the box before committing. If I decide to go with it, I'll send you a PM. Thanks, S-C.

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:54 am
by Lowie
kimbodious wrote:give us a hoi Lowie when you get yours so I can give you the go on the wiring if you need that sort of help? beats me how I didn't blow the meter up first and second go round!


Cheers mate, will do :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:00 pm
by kimbodious
I found this schematic helpful when connecting up my meter ;)
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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:32 pm
by Lowie
What do the blue wires connect to?

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:03 pm
by kimbodious
they connect to the donut thingie, but the wites on mine were red and black

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:59 pm
by Otago Elvis
kimbodious wrote:they connect to the donut thingie, but the wites on mine were red and black


:laughing-rolling: That's awesome Kimbo! :laughing-rolling:

You have the same amount of sparky talk as me :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Cheers mate :obscene-drinkingcheers:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:18 pm
by Hooky
kimbodious wrote:they connect to the donut thingie, but the wites on mine were red and black

Just a bit of useful/useless info. The 'donut thingy' is labelled on the schematic diagram as a CT, which is a current transformer. This is what allows the amount of current being drawn by the load (boiler) to be displayed on your meter :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:06 pm
by kimbodious
I've made a photo essay on constructing my modular pot still system.

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50 litre beer keg boiler with 2200w electric element

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Insulation for the boiler made from roofing insulation

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305mm SS spool riser

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SS tee capped

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SS elbow plus St-ill Dra-gon Big Baby shotgun Priduct Condensor

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Output tube made from 3/4" copper pipe


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Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:09 pm
by kimbodious
Photo essay continued

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Coolant lines conbected using 3/4" triclamps :handgestures-thumbupright:

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Power controller connected

Thanks for indulging me, I get a few queries/ comments on the modular style of still construction

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:17 pm
by Otago Elvis
Yep, a bloke on AuD was looking for Keggo mods and the like. Someone pointed him in your direction :handgestures-thumbupright:

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:19 pm
by kimbodious
yeah no worries OE, I ended up making some alright neutral with my modded up Keggomax but it was a fussy beast to run just the same - impossible without a power controller!

I sold the Keggomax to fund the purchase of the St-ill Dra-gon Big Baby shotgun condenser. :handgestures-thumbupright: That condenser was knocking down everything the 2200w element coukd throw at it Monday on a stripping run of kale wash

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:27 pm
by kimbodious
Well wouldn't you know, it says I have been permanently banned from AuD? wow!

Re: Kimbodious' rig

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:17 am
by S-Cackalacky
Kimbo, thanks for posting the assembly pics. I like to advocate for the novice distiller and I admire anyone else who also carries that torch. This build thread demonstrates a simple method for anyone to have a superior still without being a master craftsman. I don't mean that with any disrespect. Just saying that it offers encouragement to the guy just starting out and you're to be admired for that.