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Postby hudsonbay distillers » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:11 am

morning to all , im toying with the idea of building some wooden fermenters and was wondering what type of wood other than oak could be used . any experiences that you have had would be appreciated . thanks
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Re: wooden fermenter tanks

Postby S-Cackalacky » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:40 am

Just an assumption on my part, but I would think American white oak, or some European varieties might be the most practical choices. They have been used for barrel making for centuries because of their ability to hold liquid without leaking.

There was a member on the HD site named "Scout" who was a professional cooper. Don't know if he still posts there, but he was very knowledgeable about wood properties. Some research into his posts might be helpful.
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Postby Copperhead road » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:30 am

I did see a coopers video recently and there is a food grade pine in Australia that is often used to make wooden milk buckets (there is a couple of other varieties also along with Cackalackys recommendations)
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Postby hudsonbay distillers » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:58 am

thanks for the reply guys im seeing on the interweb there are some made of Cyprus and of cedar and oak all wood we dont have locally . in the old days around here there were wooden water tanks made out of black poplar and white poplar the both hard woods but the black poplar ones lasted for ever as long as there not allowed to dry out . these tanks were square not round but i think its cuz nobody knew how to make a round one lol . i may try to make one out of clear cedar its probably the easiest to get other than local lumber .
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Postby Copperhead road » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:27 am

I have seen a clear cedar open top 200 litre fermentation barrel and it was awesome
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Postby Otago Elvis » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:53 pm

Hey Tim, do you have a local timber mill?
It's likely they could give you some advice as to which timbers can be sourced locally and which are food safe. If not, it would be a fair chance they'd know of someone who does.
Might save you some coin :confusion-shrug:

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Postby hudsonbay distillers » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:36 am

cr i agree clear cedar tanks are very cool it probably will be my first attempt at making a vessel .

elvis . we have local saw mills for sure i ll have to take a tour to one and see what they think , there is one in particular that saws alot of poplar its great looking material if you can keep it straight . thanks guys
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Postby just sayin' » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:49 am

Tim,
Wooden washbacks are still in use in many Scottish distillers, some more than a century old. Larch and Oregon pine are frequently mentioned as the materials. Good luck!
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Postby hudsonbay distillers » Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:34 am

thanks js we have lots of very nice pine but it is very notty our big bull pine make nice looking lumber but make leek like a screen lol . were in middle of building a new distillery so once were done with it and all equipment moved over i hope to have time to try my hand at making a 150 gallon wooden ferment er .
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Re: wooden fermenter tanks

Postby crow » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:42 am

Oregon (Douglas fir) is not an uncommon choice even in some Scottish distilleries. Not sure how they treat it from new but I'd say steeping it first off with hot water might be a good idea.
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Postby FullySilenced » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:29 am

I remember them talking about the wood fermenters at Bundy look at the video about 30 minutes of time...

I read some use beachwood.... cyprus and white oak
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Postby hudsonbay distillers » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:40 pm

thanks fs where do i find such a video i would love to see it . thanks

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Postby SBB » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:50 pm

FS I dont think Bundaberg ferment in wood, If your referring to some massive wooden tanks seen in some of the Bundaberg rum film clips those are what they age in. For the record the aging tanks / vats are made of un toasted or charred American oak.
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Postby crow » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:32 am

Here are some videos showing the use of Oregon washbacks
https://youtu.be/H8snjduDUHo

https://youtu.be/6ARLgspPVPE
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Postby crow » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:48 am

I should mention that Iain Henderson has 11 of those videos of the running of Edradour distillery and they are well worth watching in order for anyone interested in more traditional old craft distiller sized whisky distilling.. I don't know how to bundle them and post on my phone so here is the first one and I guess the others should follow on as suggestions
https://youtu.be/Xn4I6Rx3Iik
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Postby hudsonbay distillers » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:57 pm

thanks crow for the links , life has got busy here with building the new distillery so i haven had a chance to explore much into my idea of making wooden washbacks but i sure hope things level out around here winter is already starting to show up .
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Postby just sayin' » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:10 am

Crow, thanks for the video link. Absolutely fascinating!
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Postby Copperhead road » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:05 am

Fantastic links @crow thanks for posting, I watched another short video of that distillery and they still hand mash as well. :handgestures-thumbupright:
A practice that is just standard for the home distiller...... :bow-blue:
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