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Voltage Controller

Postby Matt2 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:22 am

I have read a lot of posts about element controllers and was wondering what the harm would be in using something like this:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/172121787084 to bring down the boil on my store boiler for my spirit runs?
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby FullySilenced » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:14 am

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10000W-AC110 ... Sw1vlUrJot

I have a couple of these they work for me without issue

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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby Matt2 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:27 pm

That's good enough for me FS. I have one on its way.
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby FullySilenced » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:51 pm

if they come in with chinese markings on the wire inlet outlets here it is:


4 terminals in a row.... incoming volatage the 2 left terminals regulated power comes out the 2 right terminals

happy stillin

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i have read a couple guys had the fan power chip go out ... but i have not had an issue and i ran the unit for a few hours just today... rumka turned out nice...
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby Matt2 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:33 pm

Cheers for the heads up. I was hoping it would come with some sort of diagram. I'll look to mount it in a box and butcher an extension lead.

For stripping I'll just mains power to boiler, for spirit runs run the reg after its up to temp. That way i can reduce the "on" time for the reg.
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby FullySilenced » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:32 am

Make sure your box is vented ... like an ammo box ... plenty of room for switches and in and out plugs....you may want to add a small 230v computer fan for the box and use the unregulated power to run it...

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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby andy1982 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:39 pm

Is it pos neutral pos neautral
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby andy1982 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:06 pm

Anyone wire one of these up
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby bigfoot » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:08 pm

Wish I knew about these before building mine...would have saved a lot of time and skinned knuckles, and blood stains!
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby FullySilenced » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:30 am

yep looking at the 4 terminals the left two are power in the right two are power out


P P Pout Pout

happy stillin,


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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby S-Cackalacky » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:54 am

FullySilenced wrote:yep looking at the 4 terminals the left two are power in the right two are power out


P P Pout Pout

happy stillin,


FS

You still need to use a little care in the order in which the input and output are terminated to the controller. For instance, if your inputs are black and white (hot and neutral), the black input would go to the left input terminal and the black output would go to the right output terminal. The white (neutral) input/output would go to the two center terminals.

If you remove the cover of the controller, the circuit board should look something like this:
Controller 2.png

The two outermost terminals are routed on the circuit board to the SCR. The two center terminals are tied together and basically bypass the SCR. In the USA using 240VAC, it works pretty much the same way, except using 2 hots instead of hot/neutral.
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby andy1982 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:50 am

Yeah it looks exactly like this so the pos r outer most ports and neutral are centre two there are a few spots to attach the earth but would like to c where u attached yours if I do something wrong my sparky will pick it up anyway but I want to do the majority and just have him check it
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby kimbodious » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:17 pm

I didn't connect the neutral to the controller at all - I had no reason to break the conductor for the neutral. On the other hand I took care to make sure everything was earthed!
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby S-Cackalacky » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:23 am

kimbodious wrote:I didn't connect the neutral to the controller at all - I had no reason to break the conductor for the neutral. On the other hand I took care to make sure everything was earthed!

Yeah, I'm not sure the two center terminals serve much purpose, other than to satisfy a psychological need. Just a consistent way to deal with the neutral wire.

I earth grounded the green ground wire (input and output) to a screw in the metal box. I made sure that all the components were grounded by checking the continuity between the components and the ground terminals on the plug (input) and receptacle (output). If using a PVC box, I suppose it would be necessary to tie all the grounds together using a wire. With a metal box, the ground is established by the metal to metal contact of the components to the box. Maybe a sparky here will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby andy1982 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:44 pm

Built my controller today hopefully have a sparky from work test it tomorrow
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby andy1982 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:49 am

Woo sparkies gave me the all clear tried it on a fan works sweet hopefully it lasts cuz I've heard stories that they don't
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Re: Voltage Controller

Postby andy1982 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:23 pm

Doing a strip with my v controller now and the problem I was having with extremely hot distillate is solved
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