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She's huge

Postby timmyjane » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:29 pm

9 feet exactly. I have to remake the water supply lines now that Ive added the stretched torpedo. Probably need to cut a coupling in to be able to reduce the height for whiskey, rum, etc.
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Re: She's huge

Postby Hawk » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:39 pm

Good God! Good thing you have a good size boiler, You might suck out all the abv out before you get a drop! Nice work!
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Re: She's huge

Postby myles » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:58 pm

And that is why I like a horizontal reflux condenser. :lol:
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Re: She's huge

Postby timmyjane » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:10 pm

myles wrote:And that is why I like a horizontal reflux condenser. :lol:

Ill look into this. Id like to do a heads trap too but dont really understand them. I have Rikus book and read about the trap and Thors hammer probably 10 times but its not sinking in. Tips?
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Re: She's huge

Postby jake_leg » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:26 pm

A heads column would only make the thing a little bit taller...

My understanding of it is that bleeding off heads a little bit at a time from the top requires a high reflux ratio (like 9). It is quicker to concentrate heads towards the top of the column with a lower reflux ratio (like 3) and take off azeotrope from slightly lower down.
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Re: She's huge

Postby lokibrew » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:31 pm

Jake, a heads trap can be on a transverse thor's hammer style dephleg. Just need a lip to keep the heads in the upper chamber Rather less height.
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Re: She's huge

Postby jake_leg » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:33 pm

lokibrew wrote:Jake, a heads trap can be on a transverse thor's hammer style dephleg. Just need a lip to keep the heads in the upper chamber Rather less height.


yes, but the heads column requires 40 cm or so of extra packing.
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Re: She's huge

Postby timmyjane » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:53 pm

I guess thats why i cant find much information on traps.
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Re: She's huge

Postby Bushman » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:13 am

How are you planning on doing the water supply line? If your recycling water you will need a pump rated for that vertical height.
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Re: She's huge

Postby FullySilenced » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:07 am

TJ, BTW its not nice to talk about a ladies SIZE :laughing-rolling:

She's is a beaut though... keep up the good work.. little tweaking is all i'm a thinking 8-)
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Re: She's huge

Postby timmyjane » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:21 am

Bushman wrote:How are you planning on doing the water supply line? If your recycling water you will need a pump rated for that vertical height.


I use a Superior Pump 1/3 hp utility pump. Checked the manual and it will move 28 GPM at a height of 10'. Plenty of juice. I have to remake the supply lines becasue of the increased height though. My previous lines were all Pex. Those can be a little stiff so Im going to look at other materials. Any suggestions of a flexable pipe that wont collapse on itself when the water gets hot.
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Re: She's huge

Postby BareKnuckles » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Sweet TJ... I dig it man...

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Re: She's huge

Postby FullySilenced » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:04 pm

OH TJ its so big... :obscene-drinkingcheers: :laughing-rolling:
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Re: She's huge

Postby hard times » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:55 pm

Nice Rig!!
I'm jealous of your controller.
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Re: She's huge

Postby Bushman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:08 pm

+1, would love to add a controller in the future to my set-up!
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Re: She's huge

Postby timmyjane » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:11 pm

hard times wrote:Nice Rig!!
I'm jealous of your controller.


Id be glad to help you out with one if you wanted to build. Mines got PID control and then the minime manual control too. Also hooked it up for the auto shut down.
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Re: She's huge

Postby hard times » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 pm

Thank you for the offer, I've got a lot of the parts
to build the controller, I just need a kick in the
butt to get started.
I've been holding off on the build cause of all the new ideas
and parts that are being developed/used.
A lot of my still work is on hold because of this.
Could you post some pics of the insides of your box
and diagrams of your wiring so I can study it.



If I add a couple more things to my work load I'm gonna
need a 30 hour day and two of me to keep up :teasing-tease:
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Re: She's huge

Postby Kapea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:49 am

hard times wrote:Thank you for the offer, I've got a lot of the parts
to build the controller, I just need a kick in the
butt to get started.
I've been holding off on the build cause of all the new ideas
and parts that are being developed/used.
A lot of my still work is on hold because of this.
Could you post some pics of the insides of your box
and diagrams of your wiring so I can study it.



If I add a couple more things to my work load I'm gonna
need a 30 hour day and two of me to keep up :teasing-tease:


You're using bees to cool your recirc water?

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Re: She's huge

Postby Kapea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:51 am

timmyjane wrote:
Bushman wrote:How are you planning on doing the water supply line? If your recycling water you will need a pump rated for that vertical height.


I use a Superior Pump 1/3 hp utility pump. Checked the manual and it will move 28 GPM at a height of 10'. Plenty of juice. I have to remake the supply lines becasue of the increased height though. My previous lines were all Pex. Those can be a little stiff so Im going to look at other materials. Any suggestions of a flexable pipe that wont collapse on itself when the water gets hot.

That's too much pump. You'll burn it up running it slow enough to get the desired flow.
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Re: She's huge

Postby DrWho » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:07 am

timmyjane wrote:Any suggestions of a flexable pipe that wont collapse on itself when the water gets hot.

I've been using a 6mm (1/4") ID clear tubing. I think it is just vinyl, I do know that it is inexpensive. With a decent wall thickness no issues to date.

To connect it to the condensers and such, just using a piece of copper tubing (6mm, 1/4") soldered in with a solder blob on the end as a barb. A ty-wrap can be added for additional security.

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Re: She's huge

Postby BareKnuckles » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:13 am

Kapea wrote:
timmyjane wrote:
Bushman wrote:How are you planning on doing the water supply line? If your recycling water you will need a pump rated for that vertical height.


I use a Superior Pump 1/3 hp utility pump. Checked the manual and it will move 28 GPM at a height of 10'. Plenty of juice. I have to remake the supply lines becasue of the increased height though. My previous lines were all Pex. Those can be a little stiff so Im going to look at other materials. Any suggestions of a flexable pipe that wont collapse on itself when the water gets hot.

That's too much pump. You'll burn it up running it slow enough to get the desired flow.


I use a 650 gph pond pump. All you have to do is utilize a bypass valve. No strain on the pump! :character-beavisbutthead:

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Re: She's huge

Postby Kapea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:19 am

28 gpm = 1,680 gph
Too much pump even with a huge bypass.

I run my 2" VM column at 1L/min (almost 16gph) with 2100W of heat input. The cooling water flows through the product liebig, then through the reflux coil, then to waste (once through - no recirc.). 1L/min is plenty. 28gpm is enough to keep New Orleans dry when the levies fail. :grin:
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