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con denser

Postby motormouth1162 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:50 am

Still asking and reading how much copper do I need to use to make a con denser for a 20 gallon pot still
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Re: con denser

Postby JayD » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:30 pm

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Postby motormouth1162 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:59 pm

Was thinking of using half inch copper tubing spiral coil type may buy a Liebig as well
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Re: con denser

Postby JayD » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:06 pm

The liebig is a very good condenser, ive used 3/4" for the jacket and 1/2 " for the inner tube on a 50ltr beer keg, 2" pot still and it works great, plenty of knock down power.
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Postby motormouth1162 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:14 pm

Thank you jay d I'm building a still I bought one wasn't happy with it so building me one now
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Re: con denser

Postby crow » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:36 am

build the Liebig also yourself its really not as tricky as it looks, plenty of blokes to give ya pointers :handgestures-thumbupright:
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Re: con denser

Postby motormouth1162 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:05 am

Thank you crow
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Re: con denser

Postby S-Cackalacky » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:11 am

motormouth1162 wrote:Still asking and reading how much copper do I need to use to make a con denser for a 20 gallon pot still

For a worm type coil condenser, I would guess maybe 15 feet of 1/2 inch soft copper. The bucket needs to be at least the size of your boiler, or larger if possible. Or, use a bucket just large enough to accommodate the coil with a water intake at the bottom and overflow at the top. Use a hose attached to a faucet for the intake and a hose on the overflow going to a sink drain - or use a water reservoir and a pond pump to feed the water to the intake and send the overflow back to the reservoir.

The length of the worm tubing will have more to do with how hard you plan to run the still - not so much the size of the still boiler. How hard (fast) you're able to run it will be determined by how much heat energy you use. A good rule of thumb for a worm or liebig is to just make it bigger than you think you'll need. I would encourage you to forget the worm and build a liebig. Do some research to see how others have done it and figure out what works best for you. We can't provide you with a detailed recipe for success. It's up to you to dig it out for yourself.
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Postby motormouth1162 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:43 pm

Thank you cackalacky are there different sizes of the Liebig or are they all the same size
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Re: con denser

Postby motormouth1162 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:44 pm

I know I'm asking a lot of questions but there's not a lot of answers out there
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Re: con denser

Postby JayD » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:21 pm

It hard when you first start build, how long is this, what size that? but the truth is your the creator, for the liebig around 500 to 600 mm long, longer if you want...see you can make every thing as big, ( over efficient ) as you want, but in saying this with a larger condenser you can turn up the power for your stripping run. So it's up to you in the long run.
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Re: con denser

Postby Bushman » Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:41 pm

Here is a link to a calculator to figure out the size of each. Most that build a Liebig go with the size JayD mentions.
http://homedistiller.org/calcs/cond_calc
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Re: con denser

Postby S-Cackalacky » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:19 am

For finding information on a particular subject, use a Google "site:" search. Go to google.com and enter, "site:http://forum.moderndistiller.com/" (without the quotes) in the search field followed by a space and then your search terms. For instance, to search for information about liebig builds, you would enter something like this, "site:http://forum.moderndistiller.com/ liebig condenser build" (without the quotes). You can use the same technique for other distilling websites. This usually gives better results than the regular search facility found on the website.

It's like anything else on the web - you'll need to wade through a lot of BS to find what you need. Nobody said it will be easy.
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Re: con denser

Postby motormouth1162 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:14 am

Thank you all so much for helping me out think I'm going with Liebig for sure I've seen several for sale on eBay don't no if their the right size tho
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Re: con denser

Postby crow » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:08 pm

My Liebig is too big was said by no one ever. A bigger condenser will allow you to run less water and strip much faster and have your take off the hell and away from your still. Do have a 90' bend at the liebig to lynne arm join as this will allow you to adjust the take off height. You can achieve that with an adjustable lynne arm (also a darn fine idea) but if you build a long liebig a 90' bend will make things a bit more compact. My pot still liebig was close to 6 ft with around a 5ft jacket lynne arm was adjustable and it was the bomb
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Re: con denser

Postby motormouth1162 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:21 pm

Thank you crow so if I build one say 36 inches with a 90 comming off of still I should be fine right
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Re: con denser

Postby crow » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:48 pm

Longer is better if you have room, maybe have the jacket 36" . Shorter liebigs work but you got to push the water through, are restricted to stripping at a speed the condenser can handle and are subject to huffing, some of this can be over come with crimping, coils etc. Personally I think just make it long enough not to have these issues :handgestures-thumbupright:
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Re: con denser

Postby motormouth1162 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:52 am

OK crow thank you for all the help
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